Yoga & aikido

topic posted Sun, February 22, 2004 - 6:38 PM by  Unsubscribed
I have been told that yoga is very complimentary to aikido, and that it's been helpful to many people who have made shodan.

Thoughts?
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  • Re: Yoga & aikido

    Sun, February 22, 2004 - 7:41 PM
    yoga will help your balance, flexibility & definitly your ukemi.i've been doing it for 25 years.
    but none of the shodans in my dojo do... i can do some stuff they can't...but don't let them hear i said that!
  • Re: Yoga & aikido

    Sun, February 22, 2004 - 10:18 PM
    some places, like Aikido of Fresno and Aikido Montreux, do an awful lot of yoga alongside the aikido: I think those websites or teachers have some articulate things to say about the relationship between the two.

    the distinction between "people who have made shodan" and people who haven't is kind of curious--is it just that you've had many yudansha mention it to you and you value their opinion more highly in terms of your aikido development?
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      Re: Yoga & aikido

      Mon, February 23, 2004 - 11:45 AM
      didn't really offer it as an opinion, per se. as an accident i found out they also do yoga on other nights. when i asked, they said it was helpful. one mentioned he prefers doing yoga over aikido.
      • Re: Yoga & aikido

        Thu, February 26, 2004 - 2:47 PM
        My sensei once told me yoga was aikido in a non-martial way...
        • Re: Yoga & aikido

          Thu, February 26, 2004 - 3:36 PM
          yeah in the sense of Presence & spatial awareness...don't really see how it affects interaction or conflict tho.
          • Re: Yoga & aikido

            Mon, March 1, 2004 - 10:24 AM
            There are levels of aikido training (at least for me and for the various fellow yudansha with whom I've discussed it over the years) where presence and spatial awareness are crucial.

            More importantly, yoga develops a state of internal harmony. One of aikido's central goals (at least as I understand aikido) is to transform violent interactions into harmonious interactions. And it's much easier to bring harmony into one's interactions if one is already carrying harmony inside one, yes?
            • Re: Yoga & aikido

              Mon, March 1, 2004 - 10:41 AM
              Well i have found my yoga practice to be primarily physical. Its more of the combination of all the Inner arts i practice that help bring me to mental quiet.
              I am very interested in exploring the combination of yoga/partnering/aikido. I find that the more ease of interpersonal interactions, the more mental & spiritual ease.

              Participating on these discussions is aikido for me!
  • Re: Yoga & aikido

    Sun, February 29, 2004 - 10:29 PM
    I am a yoga instructor. I also practice Aikido. I find the two really go hand-in-hand. In fact was introduced to Aikido by one of my regular yoga students. As it turns out he teaches Aikido at the same center where I teach yoga. He continues to study yoga with me and several other teachers at this center. And I continue to study Aikido with him.
    • Re: Yoga & aikido

      Mon, March 1, 2004 - 9:49 AM
      And I'm HERE, too! Small world!

      See you in class...
      • Re: Yoga & aikido

        Mon, March 1, 2004 - 6:36 PM
        So, if you can do yoga with multiple entities, then couldn't aikido also be approached in the same way? All interactions striving to find an equalized harmony that all can appreciate?
        • Re: Yoga & aikido

          Mon, March 1, 2004 - 6:44 PM
          isn't that what Aikido Is?
          and with that, i'm off to the dojo!
          • Re: Yoga & aikido

            Tue, March 2, 2004 - 6:58 AM
            Yes! But I was reffering to multiple groups. Maybe like a aikido / multidiscplinary yoga royal rumble that ends in a perfect pyramid.
            • Re: Yoga & aikido

              Tue, March 2, 2004 - 7:32 AM
              I'm still looking for someone who can do aikido and tango...
              • Re: Yoga & aikido

                Tue, March 2, 2004 - 3:49 PM
                I Tango! I think tango and aikido are, for a beginner like me, almost identical in tearms of feeling for your partners energy, and blending the centers of gravity of two people to achieve specific movements...
                • Re: Yoga & aikido

                  Tue, March 2, 2004 - 4:09 PM
                  i agree. i've been tangoing for five or so years, the first time i took ukemi i knew it was the same thing. Absolute presence, absolute blending...now if i can learn to roll in heels...
                  any leaders out there?
              • Re: Yoga & aikido

                Wed, March 3, 2004 - 12:00 PM
                I've tried to practice Aikido off and on for a couple of years now but what recently (a few months ago) got me hooked again on Aikido was the way that my ballroom dance classes made Aikido suddenly make sence! All of the throws and falls suddenly seemed to come together.

                As far as Tango, I prefure Swing :)
                • Re: Yoga & aikido

                  Sun, October 15, 2006 - 4:17 PM
                  A friend of mine that I train with occasionally invites me to salsa parties after... A year or so ago, while watching the salsa, I noticed that his footwork on the dancefloor was all aiki... touch the hands, move the feet...I saw that he was very responsive to his dance partner, but I also saw he was really doing Aikido,,, Mind you, it didn't look bad...Anyway, I told him this with specific references to moves & waza on the mat... At first he thought this interesting, but after a few months he was frustrated with it... In my most recent salsa party, I saw he had finally made the leap... No more Aiki-looking salsa... And from what I could see, the main difference was now he knew how to move his a$$ rhythmically, side to side... ;-)
  • Re: Yoga & aikido

    Sun, October 15, 2006 - 9:51 PM
    Somebody told me that, according to Iroshi Ikeda Shihan, Samurai had to be proficient in around 10 different arts to become a Samurai.

    I don't practice any martial art, but Aikido. However, I did practice Tae Kwon Do many years ago and still find links between the two. At the same time, my brother practices both Aikido and Tai Chi and find them both complementary.

    One of the shodan in my dojo has practiced Aikido since he was 8 years old and is also proficient in Ken Do and Kenpo and he can link both to Aikido, another one is proficient in so many arts that I can't remember as well as another dojo member is proficient in Ju Do and Jujitso.

    If you know anything about any of these martial arts you can always tell what that art is contributing to their Aikido.

    What I mean by this is that any art that focuses itself is developing balance and time-space awareness can improve your Aikido (I personally want to practice Iaido, but can't find any teachers in the Milwaukee area).

    The point of Aikido is to learn how to balance, from you body to your life, and use that balance in your own favor. I think that in that sense any martial art or any "art" by itself (from Yoga to Salsa dancing) can improve your Aikido not only as a martial art, but as a way of living.

    I almost forgot to mention, there's a member of my dojo who has the most awesome ukemi I have ever seen, she does Yoga and ballet before that :)
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    Re: Yoga & aikido

    Thu, October 19, 2006 - 10:39 PM
    Yoga and Aikido definately compliment each other.

    Someone mentioned inner harmony & awareness, ill agree they compliment each other.
    Physical fitness, flexibility, strenth and health, they compliment each other.

    I started doing yoga, and when i found aikido it clicked almost immediately that it was, like yoga, something i intend to practice for a very long time.

    Also, after a particularly active and fast paced class, yoga literrally puts my body back together after being thrown around.
    (note im 5th kyu so im sure im taking ukemi harder than i need to- but im learning! haha)
    • Re: Yoga & aikido

      Wed, November 29, 2006 - 9:03 PM
      Of course they all complement each other - there is no complete art of living other than trying a few things out for yourself.

      However, not to complicate matters, but what school of yoga and what school of aikido are we talking about ?

      I have been practicing Kokikai Aikido for 4 years and was always limited in my growth by my inability to relax, and my difficulty to understand than the most powerful throws are just breathing throws ('kokyu-nage") . As it turns out, a knee injury prevented me fromk doing ukemi, so i went for a softer practice instead--- vinyasa yoga. It has worked wonders on my injury and help everything else.
      After a few months I cannot consider doing one without the other. Tudasana has helped by balance tremendously. And all the aikido i did allowed me to go into yoga without fear of physical commitment and with a knowledge of how to relax into the most difficult poses. Vinyasa yoga has brought me a control of breath that is now crucial to the strength of my aikido.

      I imagine the same must be true , to some degree, with other styles of both arts (aikikai/forest ?). Or maybe it is that yoga should not be regarded as an art, but as a vital element of a healthy existence. Water and air complement aikido, don't they ? Well, so does yoga. Yoga is good for everything, and yes, it's good for aikido as well.

      The shodan factor might be a spurious correlation with age. As we grow older we get more injuries and weaknesses, and yoga is an ideal way to work on that. Or maybe it is that age brings some wisdom, and wisdom brings us to yoga. Either way, my sensei (5th Dan) started doing yoga recently and he speaks highly of it .

      But yeah, dylan, give it a try - you won't regret it.
  • Re: Yoga & aikido

    Tue, December 4, 2007 - 3:39 PM
    Not much has been written on the subject except the article written in Yoga Journal, a very cursory overview without much depth of understanding. There are numerous aikidoka who have been practicing yoga for years, myself included. I have been practicing yoga and Aikido for about twenty years and have come up with a synergistic hybrid I teach at Stanford University in the PE Program. Check out my website, more movies to come.
    web.mac.com/shawnmccracken .
  • Re: Yoga & aikido

    Sun, December 30, 2007 - 3:03 PM
    I took a few months of aikido last year. I really enjoyed it, but was seeking something a bit more "internal". I took yoga and immediately fell in love with it. I had been reading Indian philosophy, as well, and it all fit together so perfectly. I attended a yoga teacher training program and am now a certified yoga instructor. I still know very little, but I can teach what I know. I've been teaching for a few months, and it's amazing.

    That being said, I want to take aikido again. I may do it soon; I may not. But I do know that I enjoyed it. Of course, I'm also interested in chi kung. So, we'll see.

    I can see many parallels between yoga and aikido, in all realms - physical, energetic, mental, emotional, psychological, and spiritual. They can very easily complement each other. Frankly, I think the students with whom I trained could definitely use a short yoga practice before class.

    Oh, and another thing I like: the discipline of aikido. At the start of class (if not before), you are sitting seiza and waiting for Sensei. When she (my Sensei was a 70+ year-old woman who is completely amazing!) steps onto the mat, there is pure silence. When she calls you, you respond and do as she requested, then and there. You didn't do this because you'd otherwise "become one with the mat"; you did it out of respect and willingness to learn and experience. I wish yoga studios had that sort of discipline. Mine will.
    • Re: Yoga & aikido

      Thu, January 17, 2008 - 2:33 PM
      yoga is really isometric exercises either for endurance or flexibility, for example either you stand in a posure like a lunge posture for a long period of time or you focus on using muscular contractions -- ie resistance stretching- to create fliexibility. it thus goes well with everything because you create flexibility in not just the muscles but also in the joints, tendons, ligaments.

      for example, resistance stretching would be where you sit cross legged and actually push the sides of your feet into the floor, creating flexibility in the knees and hips.

      www.yogaenergyheal.com is my website for yoga instruction & vortex healing

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