I've heard the power of God flowing through him gave him power.
The current Aikido shrine is dedicated to several gods, would Sensi incorporate the supreme one to direct the lesser?
Any views on the spiritual aspects I would greatly appreciate.
The current Aikido shrine is dedicated to several gods, would Sensi incorporate the supreme one to direct the lesser?
Any views on the spiritual aspects I would greatly appreciate.
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Sat, March 31, 2007 - 8:14 PMyes...in a manner of speaking
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omoto-kyo
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Sun, April 1, 2007 - 3:52 AMPaulaC: well done. gassho
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Sun, April 1, 2007 - 6:19 AM"All things, material and spiritual, originate from one source and are related as if they were one family. The past, present, and future are all contained in the life force. The universe emerged and developed from one source, and we evolved through the optimal process of unification and harmonization."
-- Morihei Ueshiba
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Sun, April 1, 2007 - 2:06 PMO'sensei was a very devote follower of shinto. he actually set up several shrines and would got on pilgramages often. actually during his life O'sensei was an activist of sorts and was almost put to death on the main land with his spiritual teacher and a couple of his other followers. lucky for us that did not happen. there is a great book titled "the spiritual foundations of aikido" by wiliam gleason that speaks about it. also you can check into the life of and beliefs of Wanisaburo Deguchi, O'senseis spiritual teacher, and a hugely controveseial figure in japanese recent history, who brought to him many of the beliefs that he wove into his art. there are other books too but i can not remember thier names i will write them down next time i am at the dojo and post them here for you. -
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Sun, April 1, 2007 - 3:48 PMThank everyone for replies!
This is a subject I've always been interested in. The symbol of Ki the master drew as an illustration was of a triangle inside a circle thats inside a square if my memory does him justice. I may try to draw it myself sometime and would like to keep this topic going. -
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 12:38 PM"The body should be triangular, the mind circular.
The triangle represents the generation of energy and is the most stable physical posture.
The circle symbolizes serenity and perfection, the source of unlimited techniques.
The square stands for solidity, the basis of applied control."
-- O Sensei
You might also find the following page of interest:
www.tomcoyner.com/shinto.html
This article discusses not only the meaning of Shinto, but also the theory behind Triangle, Circle, and Square.
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 11:08 PM"The Art of Peace that I practice has room for each of the world's eight million gods, and I cooperate with them all. The God of Peace is very great and enjoins all that is divine and enlightened in every land."
Yeah I'd say heavily influenced by shinto as a youth and Omoto Kyo as an adult - but ultimately, after the creation of Aikido, it's my opinion if you asked him he would speak something like the above quote, transcending religion all together. -
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Tue, April 10, 2007 - 4:30 PMIntersting link! Thanks for the quotes! I like his terms "Art of Peace" and "God of Peace". -
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Tue, April 17, 2007 - 11:04 AMActually, "Art of Peace" is not a term of Ueshiba's. It was coined by John Stevens as a translation for the word "Aikido" when he translated a bunch of Ueshiba's sayings in a small book called "The Art of Peace". He intended it to contrast with Sun Tzu's Art of War. Stevens did something similar with "God of Peace"; I'm not sure which Shinto deity Stevens translated as "God of Peace", but it's certainly not the Judeo-Christian god. -
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Tue, April 17, 2007 - 5:08 PMI, too, have wondered if the intent of Aikido's founder would be mis-interpreted by those who study The Way - resulting in a deviation. Only Morehi Uyeshiba knows his intents, the rest of us it up to our interpretation.
8 million Gods (reguardless of Emperor Sun God Superior Race mentalities) would not exclude the God of Judeao-Christian origin, reguardless how His/Her "proclaimed" followers has represented the God.
The Diety of Shinto the master refered to resides over the Art and "cooperates" with what is divine and enlightened in every land. The movements are aimed at re-directing the flow of an attack to end agression and establish "peace". -
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Wed, April 18, 2007 - 12:34 AMYou may want to consider:
Ai - Harmony
Ki- Energy/Spirit/Breath
Do - Way ['Do's have generally been the martial 'arts', and jutsu's seem to be meant more for those who actually made a living in a martial venue... AFAIK]
So Harmony-Spirit-Art doesn't seem to be terribly antithetical to Stephens' idea. I did hear somewhere though that O'Sensei referred to the old addage of harmony amongst people being like hammering in the nail that wants to stick out. I don't know if this is actually true.
There is so much to be said about what O'Sensei might have meant that there's no telling really. I still like aikido.
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Thu, May 10, 2007 - 4:50 PMKaiso (Founder/ O'sensei) stated that the movements of Aikido were given by SARUTAHIKO-NO-O-KAMI and ways to become like SARUTAHIKO-NO-O-KAMI ( Primal Earhtly Kami, Kami of Guidance-Protection-Positiveness and Aikido's Guardian Kami) . The Main Shrine of this Kami is Tsubaki Grand Shrine in Mie (one of Japan's Oldest Shrines). The Mitama of O'Sensei as well as that of Nidai Doshu (Kisshomaru Sensei) are enshrined in Tsubaki Gyomando (Buddhist Hall of Tsubaki Grand Shrine).
The Mission of Aikido is also tied to the Kami: AMANOMURAKUMOKUKISAMUHARARYUOHAYATAKEMUSUNOOKAMI (The Aiki Okami) regarding TakemusuKami: Yaoyorozu-no-kamitachi-O is that the Yaoyorozu-no-O-kami are the unlimited deities who work to establish the land of Onogorojima (self condensing ball/ Earth/ Earth Jewel). They tie the life powers such as moving and falling called "AME-NO-TAKEMUSU-NO-BU" with the work of carrying on life. These are the Kami of Kamunagara who activate living movements and operations and prepare other powers that rotate around the Sun to unify all forever..relating to the line" Kami-no-tsudoe ni tsudoe" which refers directly to the operations of weaving together the Uchiki and Sotoki (Yin and Yang).
Current Doshu (Moriteru Doshu) is a board member of Tsubaki Grand Shrine in Japan which is the #1 shrine among the 2000 or so shrines to SARUTAHIKONOOKAMI. This Kami was enshrined at Aiki Jinja in Iwama as lead Kami by Yamamoto Yukiyasu Guji who was the 96th Gneration Guji (High Priest) of Tsubaki Grand SHrine and was the man who taught O'Sensei re: Triangle/Circle/Square. SARITAHIKONOOKAMI and the Mitama of O'Sensei are also enshrined at Tsubaki Grand Shrine of America, the only Jinja Shinto Shrine in North America www.TsubakiShrine.org
Interested Aikido practitioners are invited to make the Omairi (Shrine visit) ..please contact Tsubaki Shrine if you are interested...
Kannushi@TsubakiShrine.org
(360) 691-6389
from 5/15 to 5/23 the Shinto Priest of Tsubaki America Shrine will be in Moscow to conduct Aikido/Shinto seminars....
thank you
Koichi Barrish
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Thu, May 10, 2007 - 7:37 PM"Kaiso (Founder/ O'sensei) stated that the movements of Aikido were given by SARUTAHIKO-NO-O-KAMI"
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Thu, May 10, 2007 - 9:37 PMI believehe is saying that is the name of the particular kami that showed OSensei how aikido Works.
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Thu, May 24, 2007 - 5:58 PMThanks everyone for the continued posts!
Shinto concepts are interesting, I still respect Morehi Uyeshiba for his wisdom and teachings Shinto or not.
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Re: Was Morehi Uyeshiba Shinto
Sun, June 3, 2007 - 1:46 PMI think so, in a manner of speaking:
www.amazon.com/Spiritual-.../0892815086
This is the best book I have found on O'Sensai and aikido's spirituality. Warning: it is complicated and quite intense, but well worth the read if you are interested.